The Deception Begins
December 2nd, 2008 Posted in Canada Election
Left-wing bloggers are on a campaign of disinformation like this:
Monday, December 01, 2008
I would like to take this opportunity to remind Canadians of a silly little thing called math:
Seats in the House of Commons
Conservative: 143 Liberal + NDP: 114 Bloc Quebecois: 49
Independent: 2
Somehow the Liberal and NDP seats became combined – making it look like the election was close… Just so we don’t forget the real numbers and who won:
| CPC | Lib | BQ | NDP | Ind | Total | |
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Alberta
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27 | 1 | 28 | |||
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British Columbia
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22 | 5 | 9 | 36 | ||
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Prince Edward Island
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1 | 3 | 4 | |||
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Manitoba
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9 | 1 | 4 | 14 | ||
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New Brunswick
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6 | 3 | 1 | 10 | ||
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Nova Scotia
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3 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 11 | |
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Ontario
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51 | 38 | 17 | 106 | ||
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Quebec
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10 | 14 | 49 | 1 | 1 | 75 |
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Saskatchewan
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13 | 1 | 14 | |||
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Newfoundland and Labrador
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6 | 1 | 7 | |||
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Nunavut
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1 | 1 | ||||
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Northwest Territories
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1 | 1 | ||||
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Yukon
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1 | 1 | ||||
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Total
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143 | 77 | 49 | 37 | 2 | 308 |
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The Liberal have 1/2 the seats the Conservatives have;
NDP have a bit more than 25%;
The provincial party from Quebec has about 1/3. So this means Canadians wanted one of these parties?
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:50 am
Oh now, none of that stuff matters when you are planning a take over. After all, an election is just a few people saying what they want, it isn’t like it is binding or anything.
Given that these three goof balls have actually written a document that says that they cannot be defeated for two and a half years, I would say we have just seen a Dictatorship being formed.
Welcome to the Republic of Canadastan
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:27 am
Thanks for the link. For the sake of clarity (and the part of my post that you didn’t mention), the point I was making was that it is a mathematical reality that both the Conservatives and the Liberal-NDP coalition would need to depend on the Bloc Quebecois to survive in this parliament.
I wasn’t even writing in favour or against the coalition, I was just pointing out the reality of the numbers.
Cheers,
Dave
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
after this abomination can anyone still say that Dion has any integrity at all? What I’ve been saying all along has been proven true, he’s nothing but another liberal power-at-any-price slime
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Canadians vote on policies through local representatives–not governments. The 44% of Canadians that voted for the NDP and Liberal policies have more support than the 36% that voted for George Bush’s failed ideas. Period.
This is not a case of 5,205,334 vs. 75 making back-room deals. It is in fact 6,149,000 Canadians vs 5,208,000, or 7,528,000 vs. 5,208,000 if we include voters for the Bloc as well. In total, 8,466,000 Canadians voted against neo-conservative ideology just two months ago. Get the numbers straight.
There is also a tremendous amount of anti-Quebec language coming from Conservatives. First they say that the Bloc (and therefore all its supporters) are un-Canadian, then they say that this deal was put together exclusively by a Quebec conspiracy. And they wonder why some Quebecers want to separate from Canada… Harpercons, if you don’t like the Bloc–why don’t you beat them in the next election, instead of sleeping with biker chicks? = O
And why do you Alberta Reformers and northern Republicans call yourself “Tories” anyways? Tories are supposed to protect our parliamentary democracy, our constitution, and federalism–not destroy them.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 pm
You are being a little deceptive with you numbers Daniel..
We go by seats in Canada:
Canadians voted in Conservatives with 2 to 1 margin against the Liberals;
Conservatives were elected with a 3 to 1 margin against the ND.
And because we can’t vote for the BQ, they don’t count as a choice. They are a provincial party that couldn’t be allowed in a Canadian parliament unless they run in other provinces.
The Anti-Quebec language is a reaction to Quebec being anti-Canadian. Their vote show this clearly.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Blair, you are the one who is being deceptive, 6 out of 10 Canadians voted for the policies of the Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Greens.
In the Westminster parliamentary system, the people vote for representatives–not governments. The majority of seats–less than two months ago–were won by representatives with the policies of the Liberals, NDP or Bloc. That’s called a mandate.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
wrong again..
you keep joining the NDP. Liberals, Bloc and Green together – they are different parties.
Do the math my friend..
Canadians overwhelmingly voted for the Conservatives. The problem is that Quebec has a Bloc party that is provincial. Remove them and we have a majority.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
“Canadians overwhelmingly voted for the Conservatives.” That’s news to me. The election results I’ve seen say Conservatives lost 165,000 voters from 2006 and only received 143 seats (a minority).
And I remind you that in Canada’s electoral system, people don’t vote for Leaders or Governments. The ballot has the name of the candidate and party. To vote For Stephen Harper you need to live in Calgary.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
A couple of facts:
- If Quebec were a separate country, the Conservatives would have 133 out of 233 seats in Canada. A small but comfortable majority in a Westminster-style democracy.
- So long as Quebec is part of Canada, and chooses to elect a non-national party, it will always be extremely hard for anyone to hold a majority.
- Currently, the Conservatives clearly do NOT have a majority in Canada, and the coalition (provided they stay together) clearly DO have a majority.
I am a Conservative, but I am also a supporter of democracy and honesty. The coalition is what most Canadians want.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I agree. The conservatives do not have a majority.
Honesty is an interesting subject. So what would you say if they gave the separatists $2 billion to get one, and outbid the NDP and the Liberals?
I thought so…
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
“So what would you say if they gave the separatists $2 billion to get one, and outbid the NDP and the Liberals?” That you are even more of a power hungry hypocrite. The Conservatives have asked the Bloc to support them during confidence votes before and they would do it again, except the rest of the country hates neoconservatism.
Harper is in this mess because he refuses to change his agenda to one that gives him enough votes in parliament.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Not true at all – support and bribery are two different things.
Plus the Liberals had a majority so the argument is very suspect.
December 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
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